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  So were any bible prophecies true?

  by cheeseman in

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  i'm just wondering to what extent the bible accurately predicted future events?.

  when i was a good little jw, i was constantly reassured that we could have confidence in the paradise because the bible always got it's predictions correct since it was inspired by jah, blah, blah.. does anyone know of a good website which critically examines each bible prophecy one by one?

  what do real bible scholars with no bias make off all these prophecies?.

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  drew sagan

  You must understand that there is Bible prophecy and then their is Watchtower interpretation of Bible prophecy. There is so much about the Bible and the people who wrote it that the Society would never tell it's members because they know it would destroy the foundation for their beliefs. Instead they get a watered down version of the Bible with interpreted scripture given to them in books. I'm a true believer of prophecy in the Bible (many are) but not in prophecy that is "Watchtower Prophecy". Some of the most amazing prophecies I feel are contained not only in the Messiah, but also in how everything in the temple forshadowed the messiah. Textual critism at this point argue back and forth if these are "real" or not. Your faith will decide if you believe them or not.
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  JW Cartoons

  by drew sagan in

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  2. friends

  just wanted everybody to know that everyday i'm posting humorus jw cartoons over at my site.

  i'm using this as kind of a creative release.

  http://thedailytower.blogspot.com/ .

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  drew sagan

  Just wanted everybody to know that everyday I'm posting humorus JW cartoons over at my site. I'm using this as kind of a creative release.
  
  http://thedailytower.blogspot.com/
  
  I hope that in time I'm able to develop my drawing skills which are kind of weak right know. Anyway, hope you enjoy -drew
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  JW's will never be spiritually devastated

  by yaddayadda in

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  i recall reading over the years comments from time to time in the publications in relation to the above, that jehovah will never allow his organisation to be destroyed.. can anyone recall any specific quotes?

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  drew sagan

  We must remember that all religious groups feel they are on Gods side and thus will remain forever. How untrue this will be with the return of Christ when he Judges based on what INDIVIDUALS have done and not groups.
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  MEDIOCRE NEWS!!!!

  by Nosferatu in

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  this is my 9th christmas since exiting the jws.. what number is it for you?

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  drew sagan

  I never really banned Christmas. I've allways visited my family, even when I was a strong JW.
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  I wish I studied their history

  by Woodsman in

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  2. beliefs

  if i had i would have noticed what i do now.

  for over 40 years, 1874-1914 and beyond the wts claimed that there was a time of trouble like the world had never seen before going on.

  this was to be a terrible time leading up to armageddon in 1914. bible students used to write to russell and ask if his calculations were correct because they couldn't imagine the world going on much longer.

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  drew sagan

  I remember that right after I got baptised I first encountered much of the information about the Socitys past. It was so confusing to me. It's been a long struggle since then but I feel I have still benefited from the expierance. Taken from the New World Translation James 1:2-3 reads:
  
  2 Consider it all joy, my brothers, when YOU meet with various trials, 3 knowing as YOU do that this tested quality of YOUR faith works out endurance. 4 But let endurance have its work complete, that YOU may be complete and sound in all respects, not lacking in anything.
  
  My expierance has not left me bitter. It has taught me to rely upon God more than men. It has been a real stepping stone in my life. Some may feel differantly about their own personal expierance, but I wouldn't change mine for the world.
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  13 years old boy has been baptized

  by M.Bibleres in

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  2. beliefs

  13 years old boy has been baptized!

  this month i went to a circuit assembly (north/west germany) to spy what is going on and too keep me up to date with teachings and jehovah's witnesses language.

  after the assembly was over i just happened to see a father congratulating his child for being baptized.

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  drew sagan

  Let us not forget to "teach" everyone in Chrisendom that infant baptism is wrong because the Child dosn't fully understand the knowledge of God. Lord help me for what I believed when I was 11!
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  I have a couple of questions about the bible..Please help! Elders got upset

  by DavidChristopher in

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  2. bible

  i tried to ask elders and they got upset with me.

  if bad associations spoil useful habits, why did jesus do it?

  why is nothing new ever discovered from the bible?

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  drew sagan

  The Bible is the moral guide for our lives. Within its pages are many things that teach us WHAT WE OURSELVES must do. Personal choice and conscience are main factors in a Christians life. There are no hard fast rules (remember all things are lawful, but not all things are adventageous?). Those who tried to make hard fast rules becames the ones to kill Gods son. Every circumstance is differant and we are in no position to judge anybody. Instead we must encourage all to come to Christ, and assist them to personally make it their resolve to serve God. I suggest you read "In search of Christian Freedom" by Ramond Franz. It will be able to answer many of your questions.
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  Alot of Questions regarding Jehovah God.

  by Geetarfreek! in

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  hey, i'm new here and have alot of questions i would appreciate being answered.. .

  1. does god have anything against jw's playing guitar?.

  2. i f i have a family member of friend that i care dearly for but they don't believe in jehovah god then surely i won't see them again after armageddon day.

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  drew sagan

  Question #1.
  
  If this is true then I know a lot of Witnesses that arn't going to make it.
  
  Question #2.
  
  Read Romans chapter two. Then ask yourself this question again.
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  Fun JW Trivia.... Not Really

  by drew sagan in

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  a circuit overseer i had a while ago gave the service group one morning a trivia question.

  where are the five places the governing body has resided?

  i'll give you his answer in a little bit.

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  drew sagan

  serendipity got it all right except one! Actually the most absurd answer. Here are the answers:
  
  
  1. Jerusalem
  
  2. The outside mountains of Jerusalem (remember "flee to the mountains"?!!!)
  
  3. In Prison in Georgia
  
  4. Pennsylvania
  
  5. New York (Brooklyn)
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  BeepBeep Needs to Know About 1975!!!

  by SWALKER in

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  2. beliefs

  i know that many of you have the information discussing the watchtower's view on this and why so many thought it was going to be the beginning of armageddon and the mass exodus from the org when nothing happened.

  i remember it very well and my mom telling me not to get my hopes up because she had been looking for the ancient worthies to appear for years at the assemblies and that never happened.

  then they changed their prophesy on that too!!!

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  drew sagan

  Read Crisis of Conscience. That told me all I needed to know.